How do you hold on to faith when life falls apart?

Pastor and author Ray Ortlund joins host Curtis Chang for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about suffering, betrayal, regret, and even death—drawing from personal stories and the powerful promise of Isaiah 57:15. From the fractures of the global church to intimate heartbreak, Curtis and Ray explore how spiritual honesty, resurrection hope, the Psalms, and lived community can sustain us through rock-bottom moments. If you’re facing pain, loss, or doubt, Ray offers a faithful roadmap toward healing and hope.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• John Wesley’s Rules for Small Groups
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s Life Together (pdf)
• A discussion on John Wesley’s theology of dying
• Isaiah 57:15 ESV
• Matthew 5:10-12 NIRV
• Philippians 2:12-13 ESV

More From Ray Ortlund:

• Ray Ortlund’s Good News at Rock Bottom
• Ray Ortlund & Sam Alberry’s podcast: You’re Not Crazy
• Ray Ortlund’s Renewal Ministries
• Follow Ray Ortlund on Instagram
• Follow Ray Ortlund on Bluesky

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