Host Curtis Chang sits down with Pastor Caleb Campbell, author of the new book Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Caleb shares his powerful journey from disenfranchised young churchgoer to neo-nazi, and ultimately, his transformation into an evangelical pastor with a desire to reach adherents of Christian Nationalism. Together, Curtis and Caleb explore how our friends and neighbors become entangled in the worship of nationalism and political power and offer practical steps for inviting these individuals into meaningful relationships that foster hope and change.

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REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

Rich Mullins’ Song: Sometimes By Step

Galatians 6:1-2 NIV

Tim Keller: Preaching to the Collective Heart (blog post)

Pete Scazzaro’s book: Emotionally Healthy Spirituality