Archives: Podcasts
David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity
How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival?
Sara Billups Explores ‘Nervous Systems’ and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life
Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence?
Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today’s chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture.
When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors
What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids?
In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis “Paco” Amador about the struggles of Chicago’s immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear.
David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)
How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism?
Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America.
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